Britain has to deport foreign nationals who’ve been convicted of violent crimes once they’ve been released from prison (article and podcast)
Changes needed in our justice system for deportation of foreign national criminals.
by Liberty Defender, "grandmother and traditionalist poet", Faye Lowley
Although this idea was not in the constitution Jack and Tim wrote, the Liberty Defenders believe that foreign nationals convicted of a serious violent crime should be deported immediately upon their release from incarceration.
Anyone who has been welcomed into our country as a refugee or immigrant has to realise that they are to abide by our laws and accept the consequences of their actions. Our legal system seems to have a problem with awarding the correct punishment to fit the crime. We are too lenient in our punishment of criminals, and because of the liberal lunacy infecting our penal system, budget cuts and overcrowding in jails, judges are loathe to hand down long enough sentences.
Obviously, the defendant would have to be given due process under the law. However, if they are convicted of a serious, violent crime which results in jail time, then the answer and only solution to the problem is to deport the offender immediately, so that our prisons are not overflowing with foreign inmates and society is kept safe. Alternatively, after serving jail time they would be immediately deported.
This would also act as a deterrent. If foreign nationals knew they would be deported if they were convicted, they might in fact choose to behave themselves knowing that the threat of deportation was looming over their heads. After all, although criminals hate us, they love our benefits!
In order to get to the root of the problem of crime in this country we need to prevent crimes being committed in the first instance, whether it is those committed by foreign nationals or members of the indigenous population.
We cannot deport our own people (unlike in the old days when we could deport Brits to penal colonies in Australia), but the incidence of violent crimes, sexual offences, paedophilia etc by foreign nationals and the local population has risen sharply since there is no true deterrent.
When capital punishment was the law of the land the murder rate was much less as it acted as a deterrent. With the push of Liberals to abolish hanging and its subsequent abolition, the deterrent has been removed. Although initially this was not problematic, with changing demographics, as well as sexual deviance on the rise, crime rates have soared (see London’s knife crime epidemic for evidence)
There could be a much less severe punishment than hanging if only the powers that be had the intelligence to find a deterrent--a way to prevent crimes being committed in the first place.
One way would be to take away the benefits of the criminal whether a foreign national or a member of the indigenous population. Our politicians are paid enough, they could surely come up with a good solution to lessen the incidence of crimes in this country.
But first, political correctness has to be abolished, removed from the ‘statute books’. The former Home Secretary under Blair, David Blunkett turned a blind eye to the Rotherham Muslim grooming scandal as far back as 2002.
Our politicians have to realise they are elected to represent our wishes and to protect the citizens of the country. In the absence of political correctness this grave systematic injustice against children would not have been perpetrated in the first place.
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One of our members who is foreign born was unsure whether or not deportation was fair and asked that we publish his concerns. The Liberty Defenders respects all of our members opinions and wanted to publish his thoughts below.
The following letter references a point that Tim mentioned in one of his videos. The letter writer and Defenders member, who wished to remain anonymous, makes many valid points refuting the efficacy of our deportation proposal, however we stand by our position as well as the points raised by Faye Lowley in her aforeposted article - that convicted violent criminals should be deported upon their release from prison. Enjoy the podcast.
Dear Liberty Defenders,
This letter is a result of a comment on one of Timothy Scott's feeds discussing the need for a British constitution and in particular the need for a clause that requires that any foreign nationals who get convicted of a crime be deported.
Now my standing on this, as a Liberty Defenders member and foreign born patriot is conflicted because there are issues with it which I shall explain.
Firstly we have the question where do you draw a line. An unpaid parking ticket can cause a conviction. Not exactly a crime that should be dealt with like that. Then terrorism, Murder,
Sex Cases, Knife Crime, Breaking and Entering, yes that’s fair i would say. Then we have another question are they 100% guilty?
Now my story so you can understand why i question this.
I was born in April 1971 in Kitwe, Zambia to a British Mum with British Parents [my Nan & Grandad] originally from Islington London.
My Grandad was a Carpenter and was given the opportunity to go to Zambia and work on the construction of the Victoria Falls Hotel.
What was supposed to be a lifetime experience and then return to London changed when he was offered more work and they stayed. In all those years spent living abroad my Grandad
paid he's national insurance contributions knowing one day he would return and wanted no problems when he did.
My Mum was a teenager going over and returned with a husband and 4 son’s in November 1978. It was freezing and there was this cold white stuff everywhere, i cried my eyes out oh
what happened to the Sun. All these years later 40 to be precise i'm only 47, i've grown now but look back on one point in particular.
I had practically finished school and had to go back to sit my exams on day release. I worked as a messenger/postboy for a Solicitor’s in central London but was awaiting my sentencing
for something i didn't do.
With permission of the Hockey club i played for a party was organized to celebrate end of school. An all ticket event to make sure it was only those invited to attend.
The night was going well then an argument started, but the adults present calmed it all down and we continued until whispers said it was going to kick off. I informed the adults and we
decided to call it a night. I knew some would not like this and had anticipated it. I had asked some of the older guys to attend, ones that nobody would start on or argue with to ensure a
Everyone was asked to leave but we were not ready for what happened next.
As we left the club property a single policeman was waiting for us. We all had a long history with him for many reasons.
He was not a nice person and a worse officer to say the least. As we walked past he grabbed my friend “you're under arrest” he shouted as he had him in a choke hold.
I looked at the officer and asked “why he didn't do anything” and the next thing i knew i had been hit with his truncheon on the forehead right between the eyes and was being bundled
into the police car.
I remember hearing a call for assistance going out as what was a peaceful dispersal was now erupting into all out violence because people had taken enough from this one officer.
We knew most of the beat bobbies by name and them us. We had respect for them to say the least an understanding. They would tell us any more and they would go and see our
parents if we carried on. Well that would do it the beating we would get when we got home was enough to pay attention to what they were instructing us to do.
But this one officer “Melvin” had issues with all of us and 2 lads in particular. One being my brother who i looked very much like and a lad called Lee. Now my brother attended this
event but Lee was not there as he did not go to my school.
This night only my brother and myself were the only one’s arrested and charged. My brother with assault, gbh, affray and whatever else and remanded in custody to Brixton Prison. I was
charged with assault and abh. Neither my brother or myself had thrown any punches or kicks or did anything to warrant this but were severely beaten by the officers.
I was found guilty and fined £150 but i had also applied to enlist in the army and was banned from entering or reapplying for 1yr.
My brother was found not guilty unanimously at Snaresbrook Crown Court in a trial by jury. Some time had passed and the officer was still causing problems. One day turned up at the
lad Lee’s parents house looking for him.
The door was answered by Lee's Mum and in an abusive manner demanded to see Lee to arrest him. Now Lee's Mum was having none of it but Lee was stood at the top of the stairs
making gestures and taking the pee.
The officer “Melvin” pushed Lee's Mum out of the way and she went flying as he ran up the stairs and proceeded to beat the hell out of him. Little did Melvin know Lee's Mum was ex
police and she complained to all the right people. The matter was investigated and he was sacked and all matters he was dealing with were dismissed as unreliable.
Now bearing this in mind i have to question the whole deportation scenario. If i was innocent but still convicted today and with the Possibility i could be deported would, my 2 children
would not only be on their own as they live with me, but it would also leave them homeless. I am in favour of the suggestion but also need to be sure it's done correctly and all are 100%
guilty. Even by supporting Tim and others i leave myself open to possible criminal charges and that could lead to deportation without it being law as it is.
I might be foreign by birth but im English by choice the same with many others out there. Why should we be persecuted in such a way. We all make mistakes but does it warrant such
action. There's a fine line here and we need to be careful. Just look at the situation some of the most fiercely loyal people to this country are foreign or of foreign descent and should we
risk turning these people against us by taking drastic measures without assuring all of these that they are not to worry.
I've always said we should be careful what we ask for as we just might get it. If we ask for this we need to be sure it is done right.